The cut

**Tasty Fish Lips** · February 21st, 2005, 05:55 PM

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Originally posted by Tasty Fish Lips:
1. To see something when...you want to avoid too much motion.
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curtinparole:
I don't see it like that. The cut can create its own motion, and much quicker than moving the camera. The amount of multiple fast cuts I've seen that can leave me far more breathless than one moving shot...

I don't know why you quoted my first example which was about intentionally avoiding motion. The point you make doesn't invalidate my example, but rather just adds to list as another effective use of the cut.

I do understand the point you were trying to make. I agree, those quick cuts can be effective. But of course, like anything else, can also be overused.

Also, I was speaking about motion literally. As in literally moving the camera within a shot thereby creating actual motion. Spatial motion. The motion you speak of is rhythmic, not spatial. Rapid cuts that happen so quickly as to create a fast paced rhythm whether the camera is moving or not.

[ February 21, 2005 02:07 PM: Message edited by: Tasty Fish Lips ]

**curtinparloe** · February 21st, 2005, 06:57 PM

my point wasn't about rhythm, although I agree with what you say about that [img]smile.gif[/img]
My point was that using cuts can give a sense of motion; if you cut between moving shots (for example) it can heighten the impression, rather than lessen it, as you suggest.

and it's parloe, not parole [img]wink.gif[/img]

**untamed_aggression** · February 22nd, 2005, 12:51 AM

Originally posted by jb.:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Tasty Fish Lips:
[qb]4. Montage. When you want suggest a certain idea through the sum of the objects you cut to and from.

Oh please God no. Not the montage, anything but the montage!
<hr /></blockquote>Even Rocky had a montage!

**emjen** · February 22nd, 2005, 09:36 AM

Hey, I was born during a montage! I know, because I've seen it.

**jb_617** · February 22nd, 2005, 09:40 AM

RE: The Montage.

I know a lot of great films have used the "M" word. But i still think that it's trite, lazy, and bad, bad, bad, bad, way of exposition.

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We don't need no stinking montage.

**occasus** · February 22nd, 2005, 12:30 PM

Well, it worked in Team America! [img]wink.gif[/img]

**Vlad the Impaler** · February 22nd, 2005, 01:52 PM

Always fade out in a montage..
if you fade out it seems like
more time has passed in a montage.

**jb_617** · February 22nd, 2005, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by occasus:
Well, it worked in Team America! [img]wink.gif[/img]

Ha! Yes, but then those guys pretty much break every rule in the book anyway [img]wink.gif[/img]

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Hey terrorist...terrorise this!

**eddie123456789** · February 22nd, 2005, 02:02 PM

Part II of my trilogy *was* almost 90% montage (although I didnt realise the significance at the time) - thats 35 minutes of montage - hard for anyone.

I have no problem with montages, but this needs a little editing.